Justice Dept. asks judge to drop Obama from suit filed by Geronimo’s heirs
Published: June 21, 2009
Updated 5 months ago
The U.S. Department of Justice asked a federal judge to limit the scope of a lawsuit filed by the descendants of legendary Apache warrior Geronimo.
The suit, which names President Barack Obama and Secretary of Defense Robert Gates along with Yale University and the secretive Order of the Skull & Bones fraternity, aims to have Geronimo’s physical remains and personal effects transported from Fort Sill, Oklahoma, to southern New Mexico for a proper tribal burial.
The Justice Department’s brief, filed with the U.S. District Court for Washington, D.C. on June 10, seeks to remove the president and defense secretary from the suit.
The suit alleges that members of the Order of the Skull & Bones fraternity, whose members are among the most powerful and wealthy in American history, stole some of Geronimo’s remains and moved them in secret to New Haven, Connecticut. It is rumored that a group of bonesmen, allegedly including Prescott Bush — a former U.S. Senator whose son and grandson were both Republican presidents — dug up Geronimo’s grave in 1918 and brought his skull to the society’s clubhouse.
“The spirit is wandering until a proper burial has been performed,” Harlyn Geronimo said. “The only way to put this into closure is to release the remains, his spirit, so that he can be taken back to his homeland in the Gila Mountains, at the head of the Gila River” in New Mexico.
“Hopefully, the people we have named in our suit will take this seriously … Hopefully, they will seriously consider our request to release the remains and perform a correct burial in the Gila wilderness,” said Geronimo, stressing that the burial ritual is one of the most sacred rites in the Apache culture.
Geronimo died in 1909 at nearly 90 years of age at Fort Sill.
He had been held as a prisoner of war for more than 20 years after surrendering to the US military on the understanding he would be allowed to return to his homeland and people.
With AFP.
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Yep, the CRIMINAL Bush family is always involved in some illegal and /or immoral act!
When is Karma gonna catch up to those scoundrels?
You guys have COMPLETELY missed the point of this lawsuit!!!
Ever heard of “necromancy”? It ain’t just for tween record albums….
The misLEADER’s of this country are occult pre-Christian god worshipers. Why the F do you think they pray to a burning Owl at Bohemian Grove? This is Occult Magick!
Baphomet was the goats head ((>SKULL !!<)) the Knights Templars worshiped that brought great wealth and caused the seeds to germinate and crops to yield. The he/she goats milk fed Zeus when he was cast down from the heavens by his father Kronos. The goats hide was cut and used as the impenetrable shield commonly known as the Aegis.
…and finally if you were pre-disposed to use occult death magic can you think of a more powerful set of bones than the mighty warrior Geronimo????
Wake the F up and learn the subject you were not dared to be taught in school—-Occultism.
I have been waiting over a year for this to happen. How ’bout we dig up ol’ fuck face RayGun’s grave and grab his bones and start a “secret” club? Yeah, some more fascist “frat” club antics and Kerry and others should not skate out either.
Sounds like a plan!
I’m in!
Brilliant!
Grab Prescott Bush’s bones too -make it personal.
geronimo might get along with reagan, you never know
Well, yes, members of the Order of the Skull & Bones fraternity members are among the most powerful and wealthy in American history. The stole some of Geronimo’s remains as a frat-brat prank, then kept them as
their FRAT MASCOT.
They stole everything they could from America and around the world for
decades. Skull & Bones guys = TAKE THE MONEY & RUN.
They keep what they steal. Geronimo’s remains will never be
turned over to his family.
The predilection of certain core families being embedded in
Skull and Bones (or vice versa), here are the top 15 families in Skull and Bones
with 10+ Members (over 1833-1985, with occasional later years available):
Smith (15)
Walker (15)
Allen (13)
Brown (13)
Clark (12)
White (12)
Day (11)
Johnson (11)
Jones (11)
Miller (11)
Stewart (11)
Thompson (11)
Cheney (10)
Taft (10)
Williams (10)
Their house is located on Yale’s campus at 64 High Street. The property is
registered under RTA Incorporated. A search of the records of the state of
Connecticut shows that the officers of RTA Incorporated all appear on lists of
Skull and Bones members from the 1960’s and 1970’s. The building itself has no
windows on the outside and the exterior walls are made of concrete. The inside
walls are drywall/plaster and the floors are carpeted. It has a heating system,
but no air conditioning.
The only way the Bush family will ever be brought to justice is if all of we progressives work together to put enough pressure on President Obama to prosecute the obvious crimes.
And the most obvious crimes are those of Torture.
We Must Push President Obama to do his job of Enforcing Our Federal Anti-Torture Laws.
SIGN THE PETITION
To Prosecute Them For Torture
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Join them and call yourself a Patriot
Will Obama stand for Justice or just get in the way of it?
Ronnies skull would be more durable…its gotta be solid bone.
Prescott Bush? A Nazi grave robber…
The apples don’t fall far from the tree, either.
Right and wrong make strange bedfellows sometimes.
The Bush’s have been grave robbers for generations. They love war because that is how they make their money. Follow the bank scandal money and the Iraq War spending, and you will find a Bush agent at the end of the trail. Geronamo has spoken.
Look what I found a transcript from a very good episode on… Well you read.
Must give credit where credit is due.
Skull And Bones
CBS. 60 Minutes. Broadcast Oct. 5, 2003
There are secrets that George W. Bush guards at least as carefully as any
entrusted to a president.
He’s forbidden to share these secrets even with the vice president —
secrets he has held ever since his days as an undergraduate at Yale.
SOURCE FILE
In his senior year, Mr. Bush - like his father and his grandfather -
belonged to Skull and Bones, an elite secret society that includes some of
the most powerful men of the 20th century.
All Bonesmen, as they’re called, are forbidden to reveal what goes on in
their inner sanctum, the windowless building on the Yale campus that is
called “The Tomb.”
There are conspiracy theorists who see Skull and Bones behind everything
that goes wrong, and occasionally even right in the world.
Apart from presidents, Bones has included cabinet officers, spies, Supreme
Court justices, statesmen and captains of industry - and often their sons,
and lately their daughters, too.
It’s a social and political network like no other. And they’ve responded
to outsiders with utter silence – until an enterprising Yale graduate,
Alexandra Robbins, managed to penetrate the wall of silence in her book,
“Secrets of the Tomb.” Correspondent Morley Safer reports.
——————————————————————————–
”I spoke with about 100 members of Skull and Bones and they were members
who were tired of the secrecy, and that’s why they were willing to talk to
me,” says Robbins. “But probably twice that number hung up on me, harassed
me, or threatened me.”
Secret or not, Skull and Bones is as essential to Yale as the
Whiffenpoofs, the tables down at a pub called Mory’s, and the Yale mascot
- that ever-slobbering bulldog.
Skull and Bones, with all its ritual and macabre relics, was founded in
1832 as a new world version of secret student societies that were common
in Germany at the time. Since then, it has chosen or “tapped” only 15
senior students a year who become patriarchs when they graduate —
lifetime members of the ultimate old boys’ club.
“Skull and Bones is so tiny. That’s what makes this staggering,” says
Robbins. “There are only 15 people a year, which means there are about 800
living members at any one time.”
But a lot of Bonesmen have gone on to positions of great power, which
Robbins says is the main purpose of this secret society: to get as many
members as possible into positions of power.
“They do have many individuals in influential positions,” says Robbins.
“And that’s why this is something that we need to know about.”
President Bush has tapped five fellow Bonesmen to join his administration.
Most recently, he selected William Donaldson, Skull and Bones 1953, the
head of the Securities and Exchange Commission. Like the President, he’s
taken the Bones oath of silence.
——————————————————————————–
Ron Rosenbaum, author and columnist for the New York Observer, has become
obsessed with cracking that code of secrecy.
“I think there is a deep and legitimate distrust in America for power and
privilege that are cloaked in secrecy. It’s not supposed to be the way we
do things,” says Rosenbaum. “We’re supposed to do things out in the open
in America. And so that any society or institution that hints that there
is something hidden is, I think, a legitimate subject for investigation.”
His investigation is a 30-year obsession dating back to his days as a Yale
classmate of George W. Bush. Rosenbaum, a self-described undergraduate
nerd, was certainly not a contender for Bones. But he was fascinated by
its weirdness.
“It’s this sepulchral, tomblike, windowless, granite, sandstone bulk that
you can’t miss. And I lived next to it,” says Rosenbaum. “I had passed it
all the time. And during the initiation rites, you could hear strange
cries and whispers coming from the Skull and Bones tomb.”
Despite a lifetime of attempts to get inside, the best Rosenbaum could do
was hide out on the ledge of a nearby building a few years ago to
videotape a nocturnal initiation ceremony in the Tomb’s courtyard.
“A woman holds a knife and pretends to slash the throat of another person
lying down before them, and there’s screaming and yelling at the
neophytes,” he says.
Robbins says the cast of the initiation ritual is right out of Harry
Potter meets Dracula: “There is a devil, a Don Quixote and a Pope who has
one foot sheathed in a white monogrammed slipper resting on a stone skull.
The initiates are led into the room one at a time. And once an initiate is
inside, the Bonesmen shriek at him. Finally, the Bonesman is shoved to his
knees in front of Don Quixote as the shrieking crowd falls silent. And Don
Quixote lifts his sword and taps the Bonesman on his left shoulder and
says, ‘By order of our order, I dub thee knight of Euloga.’”
It’s a lot of mumbo-jumbo, says Robbins, but it means a lot to the people
who are in it.
“Prescott Bush, George W’s grandfather, and a band of Bonesmen, robbed the
grave of Geronimo, took the skull and some personal relics of the Apache
Chief and brought them back to the tomb,” says Robbins. “There is still a
glass case, Bonesmen tell me, within the tomb that displays a skull that
they all refer to as Geronimo.”
“The preoccupation with bones, mortality, with coffins, lying in coffins,
standing around coffins, all this sort of thing I think is designed to
give them the sense that, and it’s very true, life is short,” says
Rosenbaum. “You can spend it, if you have a privileged background,
enjoying yourself, contributing nothing, or you can spend it making a
contribution.”
And plenty of Bonesmen have made a contribution, from William Howard Taft,
the 27th President; Henry Luce, the founder of Time Magazine; and W.
Averell Harriman, the diplomat and confidant of U.S. presidents.
“What’s important about the undergraduate years of Skull and Bones, as
opposed to fraternities, is that it imbues them with a kind of mission for
moral leadership,” says Rosenbaum. “And it’s something that they may
ignore for 30 years of their life, as George W. Bush seemed to
successfully ignore it for quite a long time. But he came back to it.”
Mr. Bush, like his father and grandfather before him, has refused to talk
openly about Skull and Bones. But as a Bonesman, he was required to reveal
his innermost secrets to his fellow Bones initiates.
“They’re supposed to recount their entire sexual histories in sort of a
dim, a dimly-lit cozy room. The other 14 members are sitting on plush
couches, and the lights are dimmed,” says Robbins. “And there’s a fire
roaring. And the, this activity is supposed to last anywhere from between
one to three hours.”
——————————————————————————–
What’s the point of this?
”I believe the point of the year in the tomb is to forge such a strong
bond between these 15 new members that after they graduate, for them to
betray Skull and Bones would mean they’d have to betray their fourteen
closest friends,” says Robbins.
One can’t help but make certain comparisons with the mafia, for example.
Secret society, bonding, stakes may be a little higher in one than the
other. But everybody knows everything about everybody, which is a form of
protection.
“I think Skull and Bones has had slightly more success than the mafia in
the sense that the leaders of the five families are all doing 100 years in
jail, and the leaders of the Skull and Bones families are doing four and
eight years in the White House,” says Rosenbaum.
Bones is not restricted to the Republican Party. Yet another Bonesman has
his eye on the Oval Office: Senator John Kerry, Democrat, Skull & Bones
1966.
“It is fascinating isn’t it? I mean, again, all the people say, ‘Oh, these
societies don’t matter. The Eastern Establishment is in decline.’ And you
could not find two more quintessential Eastern establishment, privileged
guys,” says Rosenbaum. “I remember when I was a nerdy scholarship student
in the reserve book room at, at the Yale Library, and John Kerry, who at
that point styled himself ‘John F. Kerry’ would walk in.”
“There was always a little buzz,” adds Rosenbaum. “Because even then he
was seen to be destined for higher things. He was head of the Yale
Political Union, and a tap for Skull and Bones was seen as the natural
sequel to that.”
——————————————————————————–
David Brooks, a conservative commentator who has published a book on the
social dynamics of the upwardly mobile, says that while Skull & Bones may
be elite and secret, it’s anything but exciting.
“My view of secret societies is they’re like the first class cabin in
airplanes. They’re really impressive until you get into them, and then
once you’re there they’re a little dull. So you hear all these conspiracy
theories about Skull and Bones,” says Brooks.
“And to me, to be in one of these organizations, you have to have an
incredibly high tolerance for tedium ’cause you’re sittin’ around talking,
talking, and talking. You’re not running the world, you’re just gassing.”
Gassing or not, the best-connected white man’s club in America has moved
reluctantly into the 21st Century.
“Skull and Bones narrowly endorsed admitting women,” says Robbins. “The
day before these women were supposed to be initiated, a group of Bonesmen,
including William F. Buckley, obtained a court order to block the
initiation claiming that letting women into the tomb would lead to date
rape. Again more legal wrangling; finally it came down to another vote and
women were admitted and initiated.”
But Skull & Bones now has women, and it’s become more multicultural.
“It has gays who got the SAT scores, it’s got the gays who got the
straight A’s,” says Brooks. “It’s got the blacks who are the president of
the right associations. It’s different criteria. More multicultural, but
it’s still an elite, selective institution.”
On balance, it may be bizarre, but on a certain perspective, does it
provide something of value?
“You take these young strivers, you put them in this weird castle. They
spill their guts with each other, fine. But they learn something beyond
themselves. They learn a commitment to each other, they learn a commitment
to the community,” says Brooks. “And maybe they inherit some of those old
ideals of public service that are missing in a lot of other parts of the
country.”
And is that relationship, in some cases, stronger that family or faith?
“Absolutely,” says Robbins. “You know, they say, they say the motto at
Yale is, ‘For God, for country, and for Yale.’ At Bones, I would think
it’s ‘For Bones.’”
© MMIII, CBS Worldwide Inc. All Rights Reserved.
I strongly believe if these ‘white Trash’ grave robbers are not forced to return the sacred bones of our ancester ]s/p Goyathlay[ Geronimo to it’s rightful owner, that we ALL Apache have an open field day on the dead relatives of all Skull @ Bones member.
Please Mr. Obama if it was your relative what would you do.
Before you know it all Negro slave leaders will be exumed and their bones sold as toys.
ALL APACHE WE MUST RALLY !!
Great Idea! All of us skins (natives) should start desecrating the graves of the criminally rich. I sure would like to have Preston Bush’s skull for a urinal. They can’t watch all the damned grave yards all the time. Great Idea!!!
Germans do it for ransom money. Extort the rich bastards after they die. Too funny.
If you really want to learn the secrets of the Bush family read Russ Baker’s excellent book “Family of Lies”. Well-documented and explosive!
Another disgusting item is that piece of shit Dr. James Redd from Blanding,Utah (he did commit suicide) that robbed Native American burial sites for years and to read the Deseret News comments on how they adore this fuck. The mormons would really get pissed if their “documents” and “pots” (the ones used by the gentiles to tar and feather Smith), they have were stolen.
Skull and Bones was formed in about 1932. Another Indian, Black Hawk, for whom the Black Hawk War was named, required the “services” of over half of the US federal troops to put his insurgency down in the very same year that the fraternity was formed. Black Hawk died in 1838, and a year later his skull was stolen from the cemetery in Iowaville, Iowa, then later the rest of the body, and later yet, the remains supposedly returned to Iowa.
http://www.usgennet.org/usa/topic/historical/LightOn/1880wash_5.htm
However, I’ve seen at least one account that casts doubt on the story of the return of the bones, claiming they were the wrong size to have been Black Hawk’s. I’ve often wondered, considering the timing of the founding of the Skull and Bones fraternity and the insurgency by Black Hawk and his braves, if his skull ended up in the Yale frat boys’ crypt.
I have no doubt that Obama and the DoJ will block this. Obama has waay moved on from that tired old Transparency meme. Now he has yet another chance to suck up to the Bush Crime Family of Necromancers and dump on a ethnic minority (Apaches). A 2-fer.
From abrahambenjudea’s post above: “‘But they learn something beyond
themselves. They learn a commitment to each other, they learn a commitment to the community,’ says Brooks. ‘And maybe they inherit some of those old ideals of public service that are missing in a lot of other parts of the country.’” No greater pack of lies were ever said anywhere, at any time, in any universe. This is the “google” of lies, bar none. George W. Bush proved it beyond any doubt.
Sorry, correct my comment to reflect the accurate date of foundingof Skull and Bones to 1832, not 1932, and Black Hawk’s death was in in 1836, his head stolen in 1837.
More about the theft here:
http://www.campsilos.org/mod2/teachers/r5.shtml
and here:
http://www.iowaoldpress.com/IA/Polk/1907/MAR.html
I grew up in New Haven and remember well the building with no windows at Yale. Bush appointed yet another bonesman, Mike Mukasey, to protect him at DOJ. Mukasey was not only a bonesman, he is a member of AIPAC and zionist thug. All of these monsters should be arrested, incarcerated, and tried for crimes against humanity, war crimes, rape, torture, and murder to name a few. God what filth, what vermin comes out of this cult.
I think it’s a sign of immaturity that grown men belong to a club house. Club houses are okay if you’re 10 years old. Adults in secret clubs are not to be trusted.