Will torture probe target Bush officials? Top Dem says ’stand by’
Published: June 12, 2009
Updated 8 months ago
Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI), a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said on MSNBC that while the Senate has indeed been examining finer details of CIA torture authorized by the Bush administration, there are “chain of command” issues still to come.
“So, I guess, stand by,” he told Rachel Maddow on Thursday night.
“We know [the intelligence committee is getting] a comprehensive look at what happened to those high-value detainees,” said Maddow. “Does it only look at what the CIA did, or will it look at the chain of command? Whether or not instruction came from the White House, the Office of the Vice President [...] ?”
“We’re not at the stage yet in the investigation, where those chain of command issues are yet raised,” he said. “I hope, very much, that it will [be]. I believe [evidence] implicates chain of command issues and I think that that’s a critical question.”
“But, it’s not what the intelligence committee is looking at right now?” Maddow queried. “And, we should not expect that, that will be in the intelligence committee’s report when it comes out in six months or so?”
“I would not go that far,” the Rhode Island Democrat said. “You have to sort of — investigations are step by step. They’re iterative, and you have to get to a certain place before you go on. And we’re not quite at that place. So, that decision hasn’t been made. I hope it gets made. I think it will be made. There is, I think, justification for it to be made. [...] So, I guess, stand by.”
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Mike Malloy predicts that every Bush admin official will get away with all their crimes, one hundred percent. No investigations, no prosecutions.
Let’s see you make him a liar, Sen. Whitehouse.
And Malloy is usually “spot-on”.
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“….And what is it that invokes such fear in the people of America? Deep down, Americans are stricken with abject fear by the fact that it is impossible to continue being the dominate power on the planet and being indulged, like spoiled children, with all the benefits and privileges such a position affords. The United States tortures to maintain the global status quo. Remember: “Our way of life is non-negotiable.” We’ll torture or kill anyone (even ecologically, the planet) for a tank of gas and a bag of Cheetos (or any of an assortment of tasty, salt-rich snack foods).
If this preposterous way of life were a classic Madison Avenue ad campaign, its catchphrase might be: “Bet you can’t torture just one.” Or: “Go for it!” Or the latest offering of glistening snake oil that has been marketed to the nation: “Yes, we can.” . . . .
But, as far as investigating US governmental policies of torture and then prosecuting its architects and operatives goes, the Obama administration’s mantra has degenerated from, “yes, we can,” to “no, we can’t.” Unless President Obama reverses course, he will prove himself not to be an agent of change, but another waterboard carrier for the psychopaths of the status quo.
Such a high level of denial only increases the intensity of the murderous libido that flows beneath the surface of American life — that chthonic river of repressed rage surging within the psyches of the besieged laboring class, who, despite being burdened by debt slavery and chafed by ever diminishing prospects, still clutch the kitschy iconography of the god of the consumer state. Although that god has fallen, it will not go solemnly to the boneyard of dead myths.”
Source: http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_4792.shtml
Torture probe, lol.
Probe links CIA to Iraqi deaths
The Age - Apr 5, 2005 - Howed that probe turn out?
12 former judges join call for probe of torture memos
$2.95 - Philadelphia Inquirer - NewsBank - Aug 5, 2004 - How about that one?
Retired Brass Want New Abuse Probe
CBS News - Sep 9, 2004 - How about this one, what year is it again?
No backdown on CIA probe
NEWS.com.au - Dec 17, 2007 - Oh yeah, sure.
Democrats push prisoner abuse probe
CNN - Nov 7, 2005 - Yeah sure, just don’t show the pictures or no mor money to kill more people. Oh, sorry, didn’t mean to tie the war to torture.
Dems want probe of CIA tape destruction
USA Today - Dec 7, 2007 -Sure they do.
Probe Ongoing in Alleged Prisoner Abuse
FOXNews - May 5, 2004 - Ongoing for years on end, the news story that never stops giving cover to the war.
War Vets Group Calls For Ban on Torture
FOXNews - Nov 13, 2005 - It was a very small group of vets though. There’s a fruitcake in every bunch though!
So many years, so many crappy articles.
History WILL investigate, and history WILL prosecute. If the Obama Administration blocks investigation and prosecution, history will become an adversarial enemy of the United States of America. Life is what life is and the truth is what the truth is, and ever will be. The day of “buried jounalism” is dead. The truth cannot be hidden now.
Failure of our Democatic Leadership to aggressively and publicly investigate and prosecute the obvious and well known violations of OUR Federal Anti-Torture Laws
WILL HAUNT current and future Democrats for many elections to come.
Currently, all we ask is that our politicians obey the oath you took and enforce our Federal Laws and protect our Constitution.
If you fail to do your job,
there are many patriotic citizens who will pledge their fortunes and their lives to seeing the guilty punished. And you as well.
I am a 44 year Democrat but If our party fails to do this I and thousands like me will simply shift our efforts to defeating Democrats who failed to enforce Federal Laws
for the rest of those politicians careers.
Happy hunting… Angry Voters.
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{Failure of our Democatic Leadership to aggressively and publicly investigate and prosecute the obvious and well known violations of OUR Federal Anti-Torture Laws”
But they don’t care about any of that. Don’t you understand?
“WILL HAUNT current and future Democrats for many elections to come.”
Again, they could care less. They know that most voters will blindly vote D and R, as they have been indoctrinated to do regardless of all this stuff, whom most voters will forget about anyway, if they even know about it to begin with. Look at how 911 has disappeared.
“Currently, all we ask is that our politicians obey the oath you took and enforce our Federal Laws and protect our Constitution.”
Well, they have failed on that since 2000. They haven’t been protecting any constitution. They’ve been shredding it: both D and R.
“If you fail to do your job, there are many patriotic citizens who will pledge their fortunes and their lives to seeing the guilty punished. And you as well.”
Dream on.
“I am a 44 year Democrat but If our party fails to do this I and thousands like me will simply shift our efforts to defeating Democrats who failed to enforce Federal Laws
for the rest of those politicians careers.”
One has to wonder why you are STILL holding on to a Bush-accomplice “team” which long ago abandoned you, spit in your face and spit on the US Constitution years ago.
Some people will put up with anything.
It’s long past time for a third party and candidates who are legitimately progressive and who are proud to say that, such as Nader and McKinney. I voted for Cindy Sheehan and Nader/Gonzalez in 2008. I didn’t vote for Bush-accomplice messiah Obama or ANY of the so-called “Dems” in congress. Screw them. The only true Democrat remaining in congress is Dennis Kucinich. And most of the parasite war criminals who charade as “Dems” in congress run from him.
D = R. Both are paid from right-wing corporations and the military industrial complex.
Why would they be any different from each other?
This man is a hero. Senator Whitehouse is not a wimp. He has not sold out. He has self-respect and a sense of duty to democracy and the American people. He has his priorities straight and is earning the respect of everyone, even the sick excuses for lawmakers that we now have. This is what it is like to be an American hero. We are all with you Senator.
In contrast, Barak Obama is none of this. He is a wimp. He has sold out so many times he even can’t keep track of what he says from day to day. He does not have his priorities straight and is earning the disrespect of EVERYONE, including the people in the senate and house, who he carries water for, disrespect him privately for being what he has turned out to be. A speech-maker-in-chief. He doesn’t even have the respect Clinton had at the height of Lewinsky. Where’s that going to go? Obama is NOT an American hero, never will be.
By the way Bammy, how’s that two state solution coming? Have a nice date night, you ass…..
(torture-permitter/spy on americans-permitter/bank rapist enabler/Wall street hero/homophobe/pretender/overseeas job-shipper/health care fake/drone-bomber of other people’s children, BAD and phoney parent).
He does not have his priorities straight and is earning the disrespect of EVERYONE,
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Not quite. Yesterday I saw two young women sitting on the sidewalk in the major city where I live here in the States. I assumed they were begging for money so I didn’t read their sign but glancing at it I read: “Be like Obama” and then it had a peace sign to the right of that. Clearly, they don’t have a clue since messiah Obama is NOT for peace otherwise he wouldn’t have started droning Pakistan and killing innocent people there as soon as he parked in the White House nor would he be escalating the Iraq/Afghanistan occupations.
Then I read an article where Rick Bayless (the chef and restaurant owner from Chicago) who is an Obamabot said, “everyone wants to be like the Obamas.” Sigh. Ugh. Fuk that shit. I don’t want to be like the Obamas. It sounded just like what a Jesus nut would say, and then I remembered hearing this: “everyone wants to be like Jesus.” It’s the same thing. Same mentality. Which is why some of us refer to Obushma as messiah. Because that’s the mentality of many if not most of the clueless Obamabots. They were clueless as to his Bush-accomplice voting record from the senate, nor do they have a clue what he’s done TO CONTINUE THE BUSH REGIME/AGENDA since he sat in the White House.
Just stand by. Stand by until the stars burn out.
You can count on congressional dems - to tell you to be patient and to not criticize them. They will do nothing but stall and excrete useless rhetoric out of their politician pie holes on TV talk shows.
I have great faith in the extreme magnitude of their collective pusilanimity. Whitehouse is becoming an expert at the execution of the Plutocracy’s Grand Charade.
re: imsam “The only true Democrat remaining in congress is Dennis Kucinich”
Even Kucinich has been very quiet about torture prosecutions lately. Didn’t hear a word from him about impeachment after his re-election.
Conyers, who promised impeachment hearings after the election was silent and useless.
The only way we will stop Torture is to cause prosecution of those that torture.
Maligning and mocking those attempting to accomplish that is just getting in the way. We could use your help.
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We will all die from not having decent medical care before any of these rat bastards see a subpoena or handcuffs.Continue to fill up your head with television skies and low-life radio as you pop your daily Soma…life is good.
Yada yada yada. They keep talking a big game but no one has stepped up to the plate and indicted any of these unAmericans yet.
Okay, gang. Here’s what I don’t get. Both Bush and Cheney have publicly stated they each authorized torture. Cheney says he’d so it again given the chance. Rice admits passing along the torture orders. So what the hell needs investigation? If this were a regular crime with you or I, we would already be locked up and indicted. Are these former officials so untouchable we need to namby-pamby around whether they’re guilty of war crimes or not? Seems to me the cat is well out of the bag.
This needs a special prosecuter to be in charge not a cover up commitee and it needs to be in a world court because they were effected.Americans are just as responsible if they are silent on this ..
cheney has already admitted to authorizing the same torture Germans and Japanese were convicted and executed for in a US run court of law after WWII. The obsticle is the far right wing media who supported bush and cheney’s illegal activities from the day they stole the 2000 election.
History books are already stating bush kept us safe (LIE) and Osama Bin Laden turned down 3 massive structures into dust as they fell straight down into their footprint with two planes (LIE). Now our country is bankrupt from supposedly tracking Bin Laden down. The amazing thing is how many people beleive the stories from bush’s administration and their white wash commissions.