New report appears to directly contradict White House denial on abuse photos
A new report appears to directly contradict denials by the White House and the Pentagon that abuse photographs the Obama administration has withheld are worse than previously known.
In a posting Friday, an American reporter says he’s confirmed allegations printed in British newspapers that unreleased photographs of US servicemembers abusing prisoners include graphic images of rape, sexually explicit acts, sodomy and forced masturbation.
Probably most notable is an alleged photograph showing a man in a US military uniform receiving oral sex from a female prisoner.
The detailed descriptions of the photographs may provide new insight into what’s actually included among the images the administration has said it won’t release in response to a civil liberties group’s lawsuit.
Scott Horton, a journalist for Harper’s Magazine who also writes for The Daily Beast, wrote that the photographs “depict sexually explicit acts, including a uniformed soldier receiving oral sex from a female prisoner, a government contractor engaged in an act of sodomy with a male prisoner and scenes of forced masturbation, forced exhibition and penetration involving phosphorous sticks and brooms.”
Specifically, Horton writes of a photograph that allegedly shows Specialist Charles Graner, the convicted Abu Ghraib guard made famous in already released images, suturing the face of a prisoner.
“The suturing appeared to serve no ostensible medical purpose than perhaps Graner’s attempts to humiliate or terrorize the prisoner,” he writes. “A number of the withheld photographs, according to reliable sources, show Graner engaged in sexual acts with Specialist Lynndie A. England, another soldier assigned to duty at Abu Ghraib.”
England received widespread press coverage for the iconic photograph of her walking a prisoner like a dog.
If true, the images also would seem likely to enrage key constituencies of the Middle East — and be particularly offensive to Muslims. One picture, Horton says, shows a female prisoner “assuming sexually suggestive poses in a chair.” Sexual humiliation is seen as particularly degrading in many Muslim countries, particularly when it involves women.
Horton’s account does not include allegations floated by New Yorker journalist Seymour Hersh, who said in 2004 that the Pentagon has video of children being sodomized at Abu Ghraib.
“Some of the worst things that happened you don’t know about,” Hersh said. “The women were passing messages out saying ‘Please come and kill me, because of what’s happened’ and basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys, children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. And the worst above all of that is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror. It’s going to come out.”
On Thursday, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs vehemently denied British media reports which alleged that some of the photos show the rape of detainees.
“I don’t want to speak generally about some reports I’ve seen over the past few years in the British media,” he said. “And, in some ways I’m surprised it filtered down. Let’s just say if I wanted to read — if I wanted to read a write-up of how Manchester United fared in the Champion’s League cup, I might open up a British newspaper.
“Are you saying the report is completely false?” asked CBS reporter Chip Reid.
“I would refer you … to the statement that [Pentagon] put out, that the article is wrong and mischaracterizes the photos that are in question,” said Gibbs. “None of the photographs in question depict the images described in the article.”
A careful examination of Gibbs’ remarks shows that he deliberately couched his response to refer to specific “photos that are in question,” which means the White House could conceivably claim at a later date that even if images show graphic sexual acts they weren’t the ones they specifically intended to suppress.
The Pentagon’s spokesman, however, made no such caveat
“Whitman said he did not know if the Telegraph had quoted [a former general who spoke about the images] accurately,” Reuters wrote Thursday. “But he said he was not aware that any such photographs had been uncovered as part of the investigation into Abu Ghraib or abuses at other prisons.”
The British newspaper The Telegraph averred Thursday that “at least one picture shows an American soldier apparently raping a female prisoner while another is said to show a male translator raping a male detainee.”
Whitman said he did not know if the Telegraph had quoted Taguba accurately. But he said he was not aware that any such photographs had been uncovered as part of the investigation into Abu Ghraib or abuses at other prisons.
Horton’s detailed account is available here.
On Thursday, after the White House spokesman denied the Telegraph report, RAW STORY ran a detailed story including multiple accounts from 2004 which suggested that - although these particular photos might not show rape or sexual assaults - there appear to be many unreleased photos and videos which do show such acts.
“The American public needs to understand, we’re talking about rape and murder here,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), telling reporters in 2004 why the Abu Ghraib photos should not be released as former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld faced calls for his resignation. “We’re not just talking about giving people a humiliating experience. We’re talking about rape and murder and some very serious charges.”
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They will deny it up until the pictures are released, and then they will deny
that they denied torturing. Its like watching Pro-Wrestling.
Pics or it didn’t happen. Show us the pics!
Pics or no pics, the cat’s outa the bag. 911 was a point of no return.
absolutely disgusting. this is the complete fact of neo-con republicanism in control.
what has become of us? We the people now share full and complete responcibility in these acts of those who ordered them are not held accountable.
I. AM. ASHAMED.
Shame upon our souls, shame upon our nation, shame upon our government.
We as a nation will never ever get back what we lost when these…pigs authorized this.
We have entered into a whole new world to which we will never leave.
We slept while the monster ate glutonously
‘Pics or it didn’t happen.’
Wrong.
Verified by:
Scott Horton (Harper’s, the Beast)
Seymour Hersh (New Yorker)
Gen. Anthony Tagube (US military, ret.)
Sen. Lindsey graham (US Senate)
The UK Guardian
The Daily Telegraph
The list is growing.
Some of the pictures have already been released. but underreported so one would be forgiven if they had not seen these.
Like these two in particular (warning: graphic):
http://www.atlargely.com/atlargely/2009/05/photos-obama-wont-release-include-images-of-rape.html
I agree with the verified sources. But it’s not a list. It’s called evidence.
Check out the film ZERO : An Investigation Into 9/11.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3kBn1usddI
Impeach Obama’s lying ass–NOW!
This disgusting CoverUp!
I have supported Obama but he is on thin ice with his recent flip flops on enforcing our Federal Torture Laws and endless jailing of suspects.
Our Country is our Constitution. Obama needs to obey his oath to enforce our Federal Laws and to protect our Constitution. Come the next national election he may find out how much American care about that precious document.
I still support him but I am very tired of the games.
Anyone who has a good idea for pressuring him to enforcing the law, please contact me.
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President Obama is about to be caught in one big lie. At first the photos showed nothing new, nothing especially harmful, yet he changed his tune on releasing them. I don’t know who is advising Obama but his or her advice stinks.
Hey folks! No reason to be ashamed. You didn’t do this. The Nazi Bush did. It is his blackened soul that will roast.
Americans did this. When American GIs and contractors rape and murder, American citizens are guilty of rape and murder. They are our responsibility. Their guilt is our guilt. Their crimes are our crimes.
well said, donofcali.
“They did it” doesn’t cut it. WE are responsible and WE gotta face the music. Personally, I’d like to be able to travel internationally again with a shred of dignity and pride. Right now and for the last few years, it’s downright embarrassing. I’d also like to see complicit European nations take their share of the heat.
The world really wants to believe that the USA is strong enough to accept and deal with her mistakes. They’re watching.
Funny how war crimes committed by American soldiers always need photographic evidence before the unfathomable can be concieved, that a bunch of our troops would commit rape no problem, as long as they don’t get in trouble. Without exception, they always deny it until someone has to literally whip out a photo or some other irrefutable evidence. Accusers are always 100% of the time labeled liars until that point.
In fact, the Navy did a study a few years back where they got 13% of 1100 new recruits to admit they had committed a rape since age 14 and 71% of them went on to commit another rape. What kind of creep admits to rape on a questionaire? Like they’re proud of it.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19459400?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
When in history ever has their been hanus crimes committed by U.S. soldiers where there was no evidence and the military just fessed up? Never ever, not once. Not that these atrocities are worse than murdering civilians every day, or purposely creating an environment where that is occuring. It’s all part of the same package.
What can you really expect from a global serial killer (stated with all due seriousness)?
I bet those prisoners guessed it wasn’t democracy those guards were bringing into the cell.
Pax Americana? If the Nazis had won, we would have had peace too. But, not the one you wanted folks.
Whoops, I’m off message again … Let me try again: America is a country of peacefulness and light, police force of the blue planet, bringing love and roses to all all oppressed people living under horrible regimes.
And, for Petraeus to boldly come out of his closet and state that America broke the Geneva Agreements was such a dainty piece of fare.
America does not torture indeed.
They must think we’re brain dead.
What I am most afraid of is the distraction that is prepared to wipe all news of this whole “unfortunate affair” out of the spotlight, should it come to it.
Levin: I have the docs Cheney claims prove saved lives. They prove nada.
http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/torture/levin-cia-torture-documents-cheney-wants-dont-prove-squat/
Petraeus Says U.S. Violated Geneva Conventions - What Will Cheney and Rush Say?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-soltz/petraeus-says-us-violated_b_209215.html
Why must the Obama administration demean itself into acting like the Bush administration by lying about torture? The pictures exist, so publish them, as the Court has ordered. Why must they continue to appease a right wing that no longer exists? Move it and govern as the American public has demanded. In English, shit, or get off the pot.
And every day the current administration covers for the monsters who approved and did these things, they are equally guilty. Every day they continue to refuse to prosecute and obstruct those who are trying they are more complicit in these crimes. That these things happened are nightmarish. That we are no longer a nation governed by the rule of law that would try and punish those involved means that the dream that was America is dead.
Golly Gee Whiz, Andy! Christians sodomizing children and raping helpless women. Who could have possibly imagined that? (It’s only been going on for 1700 years)
The reason Obama isn’t saying anything is because too many democrats would be caught up in the investigation. They knew what was going on and did nothing. So much for bringing everything out in the open. Same president, different color, no change.
recruits hang around middle schools, mind f*cking poor children to join their regime, then use them as guinea pigs with drugs. the monsters we raise in our military are direct reflections of those truly in charge and they are carrying out their wishes. Rumsfeld/cheney/bush , the whole lot- would be found guilty within a day in an international court if one eighth of their crimes were brought to light. . .
so I ask…
are there still people with stars in their eyes for obama? they all have each others backs and you know that our prez. has seen these photos. the fact that he is not interested in prosecuting the last pack of war criminals pretty much ensures that our current “leader” will be one as well. accountability and closure, obama!!
Do you support releasing additional pictures of sexual abuse and torture of Iraqis by US troops?
http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=5385
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Trust me on this one, those pictures of rape and torture and the like will come out. Also the videos that the CIA said they destroyed of the torture interrogations (in order to protect there butts) will come out also. And that’s because their not dumb, sooner or later there is going something is going to rock the govt. and it won’t have no alternative but to prosecute. And when they do they want to be able to say this person told me to do this that person told me to do that etc. etc. and I have evidence (Even though following orders isn’t a justifiable defense).
Oooh, I smell a CHANGE abrewing. It’s called IMPEACHMENT.
Stop making excuses. oBUSHma is just another in a long line of Wall St. NWO Banksters, like the village idiot before him.
A TROJAN HORSE. Good looking facelift for the Empire and the Military Industrial Complex.
He’s doing what EVERY Pres. HAS done, and is expected to do: COVERUP WARCRIMES of the previous puppet.
I still can believe people still shriek at the term HOUSE NEGRO, even AFTER Colin Powell is the ONLY reason why the world believed, remotely the LIE that the bushcrimefamilia were selling. And remember, IRAQ War/Invasion/Occupation is, legally speaking, a United NATIONS mandate, NOT a CONgressional declaration of War, which we haven’t had, since WWII.
And the current puppet. I’m sorry, how is he ANY different? What else do you call a visual melting pot that’s supposed to represent the NEW America, a descendant of a slave, okay an African colonial subject, a byproduct of a marriage between an African man and a woman, who may or who may not have European slavemaster ancestry, to produce a beautiful child that resembles the best of it, yet still serves the agenda of the Man, while selling lipservice to his OWN people? If it looks like a duck, quacks like one, well it kinda is one.
STOP MAKING EXCUSES. Either the buck stops with him or not. Enough with the bullshit “he’s dealling with bush’s mess,” “he’s got leftover bush/cheney lieutenants undermining him,” “he just has poor misguided advisors.” QUIT MAKING bitch-ass excuses. He’s not the village idiots, unless he continues to embody his pathetic predecessor and acts like it.
In any other criminal circumstances, having the evidence and KNOWINGLY covering it up is considered ACCESSORY AFTER THE FACT, and OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE. If it is ongoing, it’s called MISPRISON of TREASON.
I swear, I hear the worst excuses from liberals. It’s obvious when a neoKUNT does it, because they are brash, they don’t believe a thing they’re saying, and frankly they’re morons. With my liberal compatriots, you do so with the full intellectual knowledge of moral conflict, yet, out of some weird obligation for pacifist harmony, you end up RATIONALIZING even the WORST HORRORS.
It’s TORTURE, it’s a coverup. And Sotomayor DOES BELONG to an organization whose motto is THE RACE, us and nothing else. It’s really frankly not much better than the Mossad’s, whose motto is “With TERROR we shall achieve our goals.” In good company.
STOP making excuses.
We cannot have a Pres. who PROMISED unseen gvt transparency, yet he pulls the same shit neoKUNTs did with “Patriot” Act with his “let’s STEAL YOUR MONEY to bailout my NWO Wall St. Bankster buddies” bill; they gave the Congress a PRE-Written 1000+ page bill at midnight, with time restrictions to read and vote.
We cannot have a Pres, who PROMISED unseen gvt accountability and CONTINUE TO COVER UP TORTURE. Remember ALL criminals are caught, as a result of a coverup, not because they were caught in the midst of the act itself.
Have to stop rationalizing for assholes and evil acts.
IF Dubya were impeached for all his war crimes, if Clinton were impeached for ILLEGALLY waging war in the Balkans, if Bush 1 were impeached for illegally waging Iraq War 1 (also UN action, all know Hussein ASKED PoppyBush IF he could invade Kuwait, and the testimony of the ambassador’s daughter was a COMPLETE fabrication, so the casus belli is completely fraudulent), if Reagan were impeached for Iran-Contra, NO ONE would blink TWICE about impeaching the current resident of WH, for continued coverup, in fact EXPANDING, illegal wiretaps, violations of posse commitatus, violations of Habeas Corpus, ILLEGAL WARS against THREE sovereign nations, without declaration of war, CONTINUED RENDITIONS, secret and indefinite detentions, and TORUTRE is still going on AT Gitmo, and BAGRAM.
WTF happened to the Left’s AntiWar movement?
STOP MAKING EXCUSES. It hurts, you’ve been duped.
But it should be admitted unequivocally that oBOMBa is a puppet of WallSt. Bankster masters. In fact, the way these bastards are collapsing the economy and the dollar, on purpose, to consolidate their own wealth, send it offshore, and buy induced bankrupt REAL wealth like land and natural resources for pennies on the dollar, oBUSHma may very well be the very last president our Republic may ever see. Soon we may very well see a world govt with a figure head viceroy for the N.American “sector.”
Keep on cheering for your own demise.
NOT, Stand up and WAKE UP. It’s not too late.
With all crimes, the only way we solve it, and make sure it does not happen again, is by FOLLOWING the money. And THAT starts by auditing the Federal Reserve.
Please press your CONgressmen/women to sponsor HR1207: the Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009. We MUST audit the FED to see where all the money were stolen and laundered to, from the last 3 months of GWB’s reign, to the current regime. Just think, with only four months under his belt, oBOMBa has managed to further sink an already bankrupt nation, by 12.7 TRILLION DOLLARS! And that’s just the bare minimum mentioned in the BloombergNews vs. Fed.Res. lawsuit FOIA request.
It’s us, the Free Humanity vs. crooked bankster ganster NWO oligarchic douchebags. There are FAR more of us, than them. DO NOT acquiesce, nor submit to their fascist will.
HR1207 is perhaps the MOST important bill you’ll ever petition for. Please help us all by helping yourselves, to seek truth in gvt taken over by, as Senator Durbin admitted recently, CON gress is owned by “them,” treasonous offshore Wall St. Banksters.
” - and then they showed that awful film,
and it just spoiled everything.”
- Hermann Goering
at Nuremberg
(see http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/5/18/223357/949 )
So, it is the military who can’t handle the truth now?
Hey Jack Nicholson, that is a regular riot.
We need to set an example for the world showing that America isn’t just what these picture depict. We need to show the world America holding the architects of these atrocities accountable. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Gonzalez, et al. need to be brought to a war crimes court. They lied to the citizens they swore to protect and represent, they lied to the world, they started a war based on lies, they were directly responsible for the deaths of US service personnel, they were directly responsible for the deaths of tens if not hundreds of thousands of foreign citizens, they were responsible fraudulent contracts given to their supporters in industry, they were responsible for illegal spying on American citizens.
We need these trials in order to learn from what happened, in order to not have to live through another instance of this particular evil.
If the Nazis weren’t put on trial after WWII, and the German people weren’t forced to face what their leaders and soldiers had done, would Germany be the country is today, or would its government and political parties still be full of Nazis justifying what they had done and claiming what they did was justified and necessary for the good of Germany?
Obama fooled us all. He is just a corrupt as the previous administration.
We’re all FUCKED. Goodbye Constitution. Goodbye Bill Rights. Hello 1984
The parallels to the Nuremberg trials… the footage of the Liberation of the Nazi Camps was more shocking than anything… and that footage is not censored. Watch them if you don’t believe me. Compare those war crimes with the current.