Michael Savage, Fred Phelps banned from entering Britain
Published: May 5, 2009
Updated 1 year ago
LONDON (AFP) – The government published a blacklist on Tuesday of people recently banned from the country including a Hamas lawmaker and a Jewish extremist, as well as anti-gay protestors and a far-right US talk show host.
Home Secretary Jacqui Smith said she decided to publish the “name and shame” list — which identifies 16 people banned since last October — for the first time to clarify what behaviour Britain will not tolerate.
“I think it’s important that people understand the sorts of values and sorts of standards that we have here, the fact that it’s a privilege to come and the sort of things that mean you won’t be welcome in this country,” she said.
“If you can’t live by the rules that we live by … we should exclude you from this country and, what’s more, now we will make public those people that we have excluded,” she told the GMTV broadcaster.
Between October and April the Home Office excluded 22 people for “fostering extremism or hatred” included preachers Abdullah Qadri Al Ahdal, Yunis Al Astal and Amir Siddique, said a Home Office statement.
Hamas MP Yunis Al-Astal, Jewish extremist Mike Guzovsky, former Ku Klux Klan leader Stephen Donald Black and neo-Nazi Erich Gliebe are also on the list, as is controversial radio host Michael Alan Weiner, also known as Michael Savage.
Others blacklisted include homophobic US pastor Fred Waldron Phelps, as well as Artur Ryno and Pavel Skachevsky, former leaders of a violent Russian skinhead gang which committed 20 racially motivated murders.
Smith said: “The government opposes extremism in all its forms and I am determined to stop those who want to spread extremism, hatred and violent messages in our communities from coming to our country.
“This is the driving force behind tighter rules on exclusions for unacceptable behaviour,” she added.
Six of those excluded recently were not named because it would not be “in the public interest,” said the Home Office.
In February Britain triggered a formal protest from the Netherlands after refusing entry to far-right Dutch lawmaker Geert Wilders, maker of a controversial film linking Islam to terrorist attacks.
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As much as I loath and despise these vermin I do not feel that they should be denied access to another country. How else can the citizenry see for themselves how craven and despicable they are and make up their own minds about what to do with them. Tar and feathers comes to mind here.
natty, see post by ignatzfattis in order to understand just what an ignorant nitwit you are. Nothing in your post makes any sense whatsoever, and is filled with stupidity.
To vexeth, Britain is a sovereign country and can exclude whoever they wish to; I’d like to see the list of hate-mongering assholes expanded to include the likes of Limpballs, Beck and the other America-haters, as well as most of those associated with the criminal Bush junta, including the Chimp himself.
Wow, natty, you have no clue, do you? This has nothing to do with “lilly, liberal decrees.” It has to do with the laws of a sovereign nation being exerted. Great Britain has the right to limit access to their country by folks they deem to be undesirables, just as we do.
Personally, I’d like to limit access to OUR country by hatemongers like Savage (Wiener) and Phelps. They are dangerous and they have NO respect for the country that gives them the right to spew their lies and vitriol.
I wonder if the “six” are Yoo, Bybee, Bradbury, Addington, Feith and Gonzales.
Vexeth -Believe it or not, in some countries it is illegal to publicly advocate for genocide, terrorism AND torture. Good thing too -if they have even half the percentage of stupid people we have they would also still be struggling with the bronze-age era argument; “Duh…should torture be legal or illegal?” like we are.
Countries that curtail the advocation of genocide, terrorism and torture do so out of regard for unpleasant experiences of their own or others -how do you think the whole Nazi thing started? Too bad our country has to learn everything the hard way.
i am an american, and i believe in the freedom of speech.
the first amendment is one of the only reasons that we even know about the torture memos.
in the UK, the ‘torture memos’ would never have become public, due to their draconian ’state secrets’ laws, and their anti-openness philosophy. we wouldnt even be having these discussions about the ‘bush 6′ because none of those guys names would be public.
the UK is where holocaust denier david irving chose to sue a historian, deborah lipstadt, who worte a book exposing all of his lies.
if you think historians should be able to be sued for calling someone a holocaust denier, then by all means lets copy the speech and media laws of great britain.
i think i will stick with the rough and tumble of american intellectual freedom, thanks very much.
again, if britain wants to outlaw inciting a riot, fine. that is already illegal in the US, as in inciting people to commit violent acts (yeah, ask the Yippies about that some time, at Chicago ‘68.. ‘off the pigs’).
im sure some of the crazy imams (and ann coulter) might run into trouble with those laws.
but why ban the person entirely? banning speech is one thing, banning a person from geographical movement is another thing. it smacks of the US-Cuba travel ban, or the soviet era bans on movement, or the way China is now. human beings should be free to travel, unless they have commited grave crimes.
talking a lot of bollocks on the radio, is not a grave crime.
today they might ban michael savage, tomorrow they are going to ban Amy Goodman, greg palast, ron suskind, seymour hirsch, jane mayer, and others, for being a ‘risk to state secrets’.
it is not about left vs right, it is about the people of the planet vs the governments and the power structures that are trying to destroy the natural freedoms of mankind… of which speech is one of the primary examples.
Ahhh, it looks like no British pubs and scotch eggs for Mikey the “Savage” Weiner. What’s the matter Weiner boy, nobody likes you? They don’t even like you in your home town of San Francisco, you silly Savage you.
LMAO - Now, THIS, is some funny shit! Now all they need to do as add Lush Limpdick, Hand Job Hannity, and the rest of the paranoid dipshits in the repuglicunt party!
Good for the Brits in ensuring that the paranoid hate-mongers in this country don’t infect its citizenry.
For those of you who are bitching that it’s ‘unacceptable’? Too fucking bad, it’s their country and they can determine who can, and who can not, sully its shores. It’s called ’sovereign nation’, assholes!
Wow. This has been interesting. I myself have had in interaction with Mr. Phelps in San Francisco and the way that he was dealt with was far better and public that any state sponsored censorship measures could ever come up with. Ideas should travel freely be they good or reprehensible. Sorry guys, I do not believe in borders.
So you don’t believe in borders? That must get complicated when traveling. Coincidentally Decora doesn’t believe in them either -I don’t think I have run into two people who make such a similar yet very unusual admission in such a short thread. Maybe you know each other!
Honestly I have known people who don’t believe in borders, so it’s nothing new to me. Generally though they aren’t very well traveled. Cross enough borders and you’ll start noticing them -there’s such a thing as differing cultures too -some people like them -they kind of go along with the whole border thing.
So I got to ask you guys -do you think it’s fair that Rumsfeld can’t travel to Germany because he’ll get arrested for war crimes? Or how about the Pinochet thing? Its a similar subject that involves borders and sovereign state laws and cultural differences and stuff. Maybe you think he should be able to travel where he likes without fear of going to places that have laws concerning war criminals that are more strict than ours or that we don’t feel like enforcing. I bet he would like that. And Pinochet. But he’s in prison already so I guess he doesn’t count.
Michael Allan Weiner……..Weiner Boy!!!!….Holy shit, no wonder he’s such a pissed off little Boi. Can you Imagine? No one, with the name “Weiner” could have survived with their sanity intact where I went to school. And it was a German community. He couldn’t either! I’m going to call him on the air and say, “Hey, Weiner”, and ask him if he pulls a rubber over his head when it rains. Did that with a state cop once, didn’t work out so good…Maybe this time.
To those fools complaining about the UK not allowing Americans freedom of speech, think about cleaning out your own back yard first…
Excerpt from: http://tinyurl.com/ce5mpy
U.S. diverts Air France plane: Passenger was a journalist critical of U.S. Foreign Policy
Hernando Calvo Ospina
Progresso Weekly
Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:43 UTC
Air France Flight 438, from Paris, was to land at Mexico City at 6 p.m. on Saturday, April 18. Five hours before landing, the captain’s voice announced that U.S. authorities had prohibited the plane from flying over U.S. territory. The explanation: among the passengers aboard was a person who was not welcome in the United States for reasons of national security.
The U.S. once banned Cat Stevens aka Yusuf Islam, because he made the “terrorist” watch list. He is an outspoken CRITIC of terrorism and Islamic extremism. Anybody here who is supportive of Savage not support the U.S.’s right to keep folks out that we feel are a threat?
Savage is a loud-mouthed, hate-filled, lying jerk who will say anything to make a buck. Just like the rest of the so-called “conservative” talk radio hosts. Witness Jay Severin’s recent racist tirade that got him “suspended indefinitely.” They say these things because it makes them provocative . . . and being provocative apparently appeals to a relatively small segment of our society which actually share these hosts’ hateful viewpoints and who are unwilling to actually look up the crap they are being fed.
Wiener/Savage will lose his suit. Yesterday, he was calling on Eric Holder to defend his “Constitutional” rights. Well, nobody in this country is infringing upon his “Constitutional” rights. Another country which has laws against the kind of crap he pulls is saying “we don’t want you here because you foment hatred and violence.” No defamation of character . . . they are right on the money.